So Explain To Me Why Ardmore Can't Have a Town Watch?
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So, I heard recently that some folks in South Ardmore wanted a Town Watch for Ardmore? I thought that a fine idea, right? I do not see these folks as potential vigilantes, just people who care about the community. But what did I hear today? That they are having a hard time getting one started? That Ardmore Progressive isn't interested or doesn't want these residents to have it and which is it so we are straight on this? Ardmore Progressive, how are you "progressive" if you can't listen to new ideas? And why was a guy who is a resident of the township, but happens to be a candidate for ward 4 kind of told he couldn't come to some town or community watch meeting to learn if they are open to the public? If he is a resident and he is coming as a resident to learn, and not to politick, why doesn't he have a right to be at the meeting? After all, he's not the only resident who is a candidate going to meetings in Lower Merion, is he? Just trying to be fair. If Ardmore Progressive Civic Association is NOT against a town watch, I would like to know right away to correct the record, or better explain the situation. A little shout out now to Steve Lindner because as a candidate for the 4th Ward and President of Ardmore Progressive Civic Association that covers South Ardmore and elsewhere, he should support the neighbors who want a town watch, don't you? Maybe he should listen to their concerns? I have to tell you I have always had a slight issue with the fact that Ardmore Progressive isn't part of the Federation of Civics. I honestly applaud their independence, but I think they do have to belong to that group to get the most bang for their buck in trying to enact change. I think Ardmore Progressive Civic Association should join the Federation of Civics, don't you? They seem to have much to offer and I think it would be good, and it might help South Ardmore to have representation at the Federation of Civics, right? And if what I have heard is true that Ardmore Progressive is against these residents forming a Town Watch, and these residents getting cooperation and guidance from that National Night Out/Town Watch guy Matt Peskin , that Houston we have a problem, can't you agree? I mean it is bad enough Matt Peskin seems to feel that he can use his non profit staus to take such a disgraceful salary, right? Is this a form of discrimination? After all if these residents of South Ardmore who may be justified in feeling they are underserved and perhaps even victims of discrimination are willing to do the work for a Town Watch, why would any of us want to say no? Doesn't it sound like a great idea? For more blogs and other info on National Night Out see things like: (And you can Google for more) So there you have it, and I am just asking reasonable questions at this point. UPDATE: I do not know if it's town watch or community watch, all I know is they want a watch. I did look at Lower Merion Community watch and noticed the following:
Matt Peskin is President. So Matt, why is it these folks can't have what they want? Feel free to write in. |
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No surprises here. Steve Linder is the hand-picked successor for Maryam Phillips by Phillips and Bruce Reed.
Linder, like Phillips, will work for the township and not the citizens of Ardmore and Lower Merion.
Having the citizens of Ardmore working with the police to fight crime does not go hand-in-hand with government power and control. The police need to be kept at arms length so the good citizens of Ardmore see them as authority figures as opposed to public servants who work for The People.
One does have to wonder why it is OK for other communities in Lower Merion to have a town watch, yet it is not OK for South Ardmore with a higher percentage of African Americans than other communities in the rest of the township.
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I could see one possible concern being that "town watch" groups could very easily turn into "vigilante groups" if there is no training or bad training. If that happened, it would be bad in SO many ways.
That said, if proper training could be provided (maybe by law enforcement?), this could be a boost to Ardmore.
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permalinkHere's the question - Is the interest by citizens of South Ardmore in Town Watch or is it in Lower Merion Community Watch?
Lower Merion Community Watch per its website is a township sponsored police-community partnership while Town Watch is a non-profit that also works with police, but would seem redundant if a local government already has its own "town watch" type program as Lower Merion already appears to.
Until I just did a little research, I did not realize there were two groups in Lower Merion.
I personally have no problem with an independent Town Watch group that works with the police (the organization has a great track record), but would not the Lower Merion Community Watch be best if it is already formed? Do the citizens of South Ardmore prefer Town Watch over Lower Merion Community Watch for some reason?
Perhaps that is the problem here. I certainly hope the citizens of South Ardmore are not being pushed away from a "police-community partnership" like Lower Merion Community Watch or perhaps are not trusting of the organization.
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Ironically Doug, the people who WANT the town/community watch in their neighborhood WANT to have that training and are the ones not getting the cooperation to get started.
And for some reason, I think part of the rules might be that the corresponding civic association has to be involved, or maybe sponsor it? And the one that covers their part of Ardmore (Ardmore Progressive) doesn't like to play well with others - so if Ardmore Progressive doesn't want the "fuss" of this (and apparently all civics pay dues to community watch), doesn't communicate with other civics, etc, well then that is I am betting part and parcel of this whole snarl in South Ardmore, huh?
I think it is time for Steve Lindner to learn the issues and the people. And if he can't get why people want a town watch, well what does that say?
Pardon my frustration, and it's not that I do not think Steve is not a nice person. He is. But that is not enough if he wants to be commissioner, is it? And he is President of Ardmore Progressive Civic, so there it is.
I hope he steps up to the plate and gets these folks what they need to feel safe - after all they are willing to do the proper training, etc. They want an organized effort, not just a bunch of folks outside the town watch system sitting on their porches and riding bikes around, because isn't that the kind of loosey goosey stuff that could lead to vigilantism?
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HUH?
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permalinkLOL, Carla. There was a spammer peddling 'dissertations' in broken English. Looks like Doug deleted the spam.
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permalinkSorry, I've gotta stop answering the spam. Makes me look extra stupid when Doug deletes it and leaves me hanging!
i.e., NOT directed at you Carla!!
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